Guest on AI with Sach

Alexandre Guilbault

Founder of the TELUS AI Accelerator, leading a team of over 65 AI engineers at TELUS

Episode with Alexandre

Alexandre Guilbault speaking on AI with Sach, episode 19Episode 19 · December 2024AI Transformation: Democratizing Innovation at TELUSTELUS AI Accelerator founder Alexandre Guilbault explains how to scale AI adoption: solve business problems first, fail fast, hire for soft skills, prepare for agentic AI.Alexandre GuilbaultFounder of the TELUS AI Accelerator, leading a team of over 65 AI engineers at TELUS

In Alexandre’s words

The best AI model in the world is useless if nobody changes how they work.

I'm often saying the best model in the world is useless if nobody use it or nobody change their process out of that. So sometimes I feel with new technologies coming in, people are so impressed by the technology itself that they forget the principle that has always been there and is still there, that there's no meaningful change without technology, people and process.
Alexandre Guilbault
Alexandre explains why stakeholder alignment is the top factor in successful AI projects at TELUS.
Said on AI with Sach · Ep. 19 · Dec 2024 · at 5:45

Stop running AI proofs of concept. Run proofs of value instead.

POCs are really popular in technology, but a proof of concept finishes with technology concepts. It's not necessarily creating value. So we prefer proof of value. And a proof of value, you might not even have the technology concept completely finalized.
Alexandre Guilbault
He describes why TELUS swapped proofs of concept for proofs of value.
Said on AI with Sach · Ep. 19 · Dec 2024 · at 7:45

In AI, skip the PhD test. Hire curiosity, because skills expire in six months.

If you don't learn every single day in six months, you're a dinosaur. So even if you hire the best person in the world, but he doesn't have the curiosity, resourcefulness, humility to continue to learn and question others around and read, they will be out of the game within six months and a year.
Alexandre Guilbault
Explaining why the TELUS AI team hires for soft skills over PhDs.
Said on AI with Sach · Ep. 19 · Dec 2024 · at 20:38

Four out of five data science projects fail. Finance teams that fund one at a time will quit AI.

But some studies have proven that 80% of the data science project in companies fails to deliver value. So that's four projects out of five that will fail. Finance thinks about funding one project and expects a return on one project. They are more likely not to see the return, and they will stop funding AI.
Alexandre Guilbault
Advice to companies starting AI on why funding project by project can kill an AI program.
Said on AI with Sach · Ep. 19 · Dec 2024 · at 25:39

100,000 employees thinking about AI beat a small team of experts.

We really think that having 100,000 people thinking about the best way to use those technologies is much better than having a small team of experts in the domain trying to figure out how those technologies can really transform business students.
Alexandre Guilbault
Why TELUS wants to democratize AI beyond a central engineering team.
Said on AI with Sach · Ep. 19 · Dec 2024 · at 1:27

Automating a task saves time. It does not change a business.

they think a bit like if they have a hammer and they were looking for nails to it. And sometimes it's a little bit too siloed or too narrowed when they think about what could be automated in their task. And automation is something AI can do for sure, but automation will just save you some time. It won't drive a big disruption.
Alexandre Guilbault
Why brainstorming about where to apply AI often aims too low.
Said on AI with Sach · Ep. 19 · Dec 2024 · at 6:41

Fail in two days, not six months: how TELUS runs risky AI projects.

We're trying to ensure that whatever we tackle, if we are to fail, we prefer to fail within a day or two rather than failing after six months. Because there's a huge opportunity cost.
Alexandre Guilbault
His fail-fast approach for classic machine learning projects.
Said on AI with Sach · Ep. 19 · Dec 2024 · at 9:52

A $10M AI opportunity with an 80% success rate is really an $8M one.

If we have an opportunity of 10 million, but our success rate is of 80%, then it's no longer 10 million. It's 8 million at this opportunity. So something else might become higher and that changes dynamically through time.
Alexandre Guilbault
How TELUS ranks AI projects using risk-weighted EBITDA.
Said on AI with Sach · Ep. 19 · Dec 2024 · at 11:17

We tried to deliver the AI and the change management ourselves. It created resistance.

And we figured out that there's more resistance to change whenever we come with everything. People like to think of us as an IT support team, a bunch of geeks that are really good with technology, but don't understand the business process.
Alexandre Guilbault
Describing what failed before TELUS introduced change champions in each business unit.
Said on AI with Sach · Ep. 19 · Dec 2024 · at 14:12

A TELUS AI leader tells his team: it's good if you fail.

Actually, we're encouraging them to fail. It's good if they fail. They shouldn't be too hard-headed and try to always be successful or else they're not innovating.
Alexandre Guilbault
How he cultivates intrapreneurship in the AI team.
Said on AI with Sach · Ep. 19 · Dec 2024 · at 22:52

Hiring one lone data scientist per department is how you lose them within a year.

So I think really AI talent attracts talent. So centralizing will help any business to build this team. Or else if they hire just one or two, they will probably lose those people after six months, a year, and they will start from scratch.
Alexandre Guilbault
Advice for companies starting from scratch on how to organize AI talent.
Said on AI with Sach · Ep. 19 · Dec 2024 · at 24:18

Next, AI moves from counselor to peer, and everyone may get several.

Agentic AI will be asking a bot to do work. So AI will move from being a counselor to a peer. That will be like everybody will add their peer as an AI, per se. Maybe multiple peers.
Alexandre Guilbault
His view of the next wave after generative AI.
Said on AI with Sach · Ep. 19 · Dec 2024 · at 28:10

You can't innovate with AI if you manage the way you always did.

If we structure too much a team, we're killing innovation. So we need to be flexible. We need to reinvent ourselves in management in order to reinvest ourselves in technology.
Alexandre Guilbault
His closing point that management practices must evolve with AI.
Said on AI with Sach · Ep. 19 · Dec 2024 · at 30:49